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he's from newtown, connecticut. his mom lived in newtown, connecticut. he lives in who broken, new jersey. was he a former student? what capacity does he have a connection to this elementary school and why was he buzzed in. that's the information we are getting. he's from newtown, connecticut but he lives currently or currently lived in who broken, new jersey. and that's why authorities are also in new jersey searching the home there. so the puzzle is getting a little bit more pieced together. but as you mention, other potential suspect or person of interest police are talking to. we have gotten very little more information about what role he may or may not have played in any of this. megyn: i want to go to tony perkins who we happen to be fortunate enough to have with us today. he's the president of the family research council. what an important day for faith and what a challenge to it for those families. >> as a father of five kids my heart is broken for those families. as a former police officer that has been at crime scenes before i can only imagine
he's from newtown, connecticut. his mom lived in newtown, connecticut. he lives in who broken, new jersey. was he a former student? what capacity does he have a connection to this elementary school and why was he buzzed in. that's the information we are getting. he's from newtown, connecticut but he lives currently or currently lived in who broken, new jersey. and that's why authorities are also in new jersey searching the home there. so the puzzle is getting a little bit more pieced together....
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for two hours tonight live in newtown, connecticut. as we work for more information about the victims of yesterday's deadly school shooting, that now we know included 12 girls and eight boys, all of them either age six or age seven. that's the word from the connecticut chief medical examiner who says this is the worst massacre he has ever seen and that includes 31 years of work here in the state of connecticut. we heard from robbie parker about an hour ago. he's a father of one of the victims, his daughter was emily. he says he's not mad, but he talked about his daughter a lot. he said she would light up a room, always had something nice to say about everyone. then he said, i'm so blessed to be her dad. that from robbie parker who is struggling for answers here tonight in newtown. this was a town, by the way, that just recently was listed in the top five safest communities to live in the entire country. from this day forward, the town of newtown, connecticut, will always be remembered for the massacre that occurred here only 36 hours a
for two hours tonight live in newtown, connecticut. as we work for more information about the victims of yesterday's deadly school shooting, that now we know included 12 girls and eight boys, all of them either age six or age seven. that's the word from the connecticut chief medical examiner who says this is the worst massacre he has ever seen and that includes 31 years of work here in the state of connecticut. we heard from robbie parker about an hour ago. he's a father of one of the victims,...
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first, are we getting any closer to answers in the newtown, connecticut elementary school massacre? >> we're hearing from connecticut state police saying they have very good evidence, it's a quote now, that could answer questions about adam lanza's motive. >> we've learned some things in particular, that he tried desperately to cover his tracks before his murderous rampage, smashing his computer hard drive, according to some police sources, making it much more difficult to read his electronic data trail that he left behind. >> we haven't articulated any definitive information about anything that was seized with the exception of the weaponry that was recovered and seized in this case. everything else is simply not being discussed publicly. >> we now have a possible motive for friday's shooting exclusively on our website. fox reports that adam lanza may have snapped because his mother was planning to commit him to a psychiatric facility. we have gathered a great deal of evidence from the secondary crime scene which was a private residence and certainly we've amassed a great deal of ev
first, are we getting any closer to answers in the newtown, connecticut elementary school massacre? >> we're hearing from connecticut state police saying they have very good evidence, it's a quote now, that could answer questions about adam lanza's motive. >> we've learned some things in particular, that he tried desperately to cover his tracks before his murderous rampage, smashing his computer hard drive, according to some police sources, making it much more difficult to read his...
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obviously, to me, we are seeing it already in connecticut. that really is the heart and soul of america. so i don't want to be overly down when i say that the country is in decline. there are elements in decline, but the real heart and soul of america is stronger than ever. >> of course, life and work continues for many people this week your work on the hill with the two benghazi hearings, one in the house and one in the senate this week. but news that secretary clinton is ill and has been injured with a concussion and will not testify. are you confident that others who will show up in her place will provide much-needed answers. >> i am sure they can provide answers, but ultimately, i believe that secretary clintonville to testify. i have a great respect for secretary clinton. no one would know more about this than she would. no one would be in a position, really to answer the tough questions of secretary clinton. once she has recovered, i believe it is important that she testify. i know that the chairwoman of the international affairs commit
obviously, to me, we are seeing it already in connecticut. that really is the heart and soul of america. so i don't want to be overly down when i say that the country is in decline. there are elements in decline, but the real heart and soul of america is stronger than ever. >> of course, life and work continues for many people this week your work on the hill with the two benghazi hearings, one in the house and one in the senate this week. but news that secretary clinton is ill and has...
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molly line live in newtown, connecticut. thank you. >> heather: there is no way to compare one heartbreaking tragedy to another other than maybe to consider its place in history. it's hard to conceive something worse than this scene you'll remember from april of 2007. a student killed 32 fellow students and faculty at virginia tech in blacksburg, virginia. it's the worst single act of gun violence in american history. the only school shooting that involved more fatalities than what happened in connecticut and so far for so many of us, today was also a reminder of this day on april 20, 1999. that is when the now infamous names, dill leancally bold -- dylan klebold and eric harris. that at columbine high school. we recall charles whitman, the engineering student and forger marine who killed 13 people and an unborn child and wounded 32 others in a shooting rampage from the tower of the university of texas. that was on august 1, 1966. his murderous rampage caught on tv camera. >> gregg: newtown, connecticut is a tight-knit commu
molly line live in newtown, connecticut. thank you. >> heather: there is no way to compare one heartbreaking tragedy to another other than maybe to consider its place in history. it's hard to conceive something worse than this scene you'll remember from april of 2007. a student killed 32 fellow students and faculty at virginia tech in blacksburg, virginia. it's the worst single act of gun violence in american history. the only school shooting that involved more fatalities than what...
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connecticut is a small state. we are all here helping together. >> judge jeanine: unfortunately we had many die in just over the woods behind me right now. chief, finally, very quickly, do you think that this could have been prevented? >> you know, given the minimum facts i have, i don't think it could have been prevented. >> all right. >> i think we have saved a lot more kids than would have been done if there were no plans in place. >> i think we have got to work a little harder though. chief mcnamara thank you for being with us this evening. >> thank you. >> coming up: who was this shooter who literally unleashed hell at an elementary school. coming up inside the mind of a killer. >> he was different, he was quiet. nice kid. good kid. i mean, he was definitely challenge the family in that house. every family has one. i have one. they have one. but never in trouble with the law. never in trouble with anything. i know she had issues with school. she eventually wound up home schooling him. she battled with the sch
connecticut is a small state. we are all here helping together. >> judge jeanine: unfortunately we had many die in just over the woods behind me right now. chief, finally, very quickly, do you think that this could have been prevented? >> you know, given the minimum facts i have, i don't think it could have been prevented. >> all right. >> i think we have saved a lot more kids than would have been done if there were no plans in place. >> i think we have got to work...
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our nation is in shock over the senseless and unspeakable tragedy that took place in newtown, connecticut. the shooter killed his mother in her home and then to a elementary cool where he gund down 20 opportunitis and teach ares before he took his own life . molly? nthe community has been pulling together since this horrific massacre. there are numerous vigils and we are getting word that president obama is it joining the community and an interfaith vigil. ther joining together and healing the community. it is it a difficult and long road ahead when you think about the victims in this case. and so many lives lost and 12 little girls and eight little boys and six women. two of the women killed were so young. beginning their careers in education . in their twens and one just 30 years old and all of these women trying to protect the children. the youngest victim named noah. you look at the list of the children's names and the names you hear in classrooms all over america. charlotte, and anna, and daniel. tiny little people cut down before they so much much life. that's what president obama t
our nation is in shock over the senseless and unspeakable tragedy that took place in newtown, connecticut. the shooter killed his mother in her home and then to a elementary cool where he gund down 20 opportunitis and teach ares before he took his own life . molly? nthe community has been pulling together since this horrific massacre. there are numerous vigils and we are getting word that president obama is it joining the community and an interfaith vigil. ther joining together and healing the...
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connecticut is a small state. we are all here helping together. >> judge jeanine: unfortunately we had many die in just over the woods behind me right now. chief, finally, very quickly, do you think that this could have been prevented? >> you know, given the minimum facts i have, i don't think it could have been prevented. >> all right. >> i think we have saved a lot more kids than would have been done if there were no plans in place. >> i think we have got to work a little harder though. chief mcnamara thank you for being with us this evening. >> thank you. >> coming up: who was this shooter who literally unleashed hell at an elementary school. coming up inside the mind of a killer. there is no mass-produced human. so we created the extraordinarily comfortable sleep number experience. around a bed with dualair technology that allows you to adjust to the support your body needs - each of your bodies. our sleep professionals will help you find your sleep number setting. exclusively at a sleep number store. sleep nu
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explaining a tragedy like the one in connecticut to children can be hard. school week is looming tomorrow and there's a conversation you may want to have. when we come back, the doctors you know and trust every week are going to offer you tips on how to best do that. ♪ ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] everyone deserves the gift of all day pain relief. this season, discover aleve. all day pain relief with just two pills. >>> one of the things we've heard that's so amazing from the families affected by this tragedy in newtown is forgiveness. as many of us go to spiritual services today, we'll pray for those families and try to find in our hearts room for the assailant, the accused. one of the things we wonder as we move forward is we talk about what we can do in schools to make our kids safer and learn from a tragedy like this. what can be learned from this suspect? this assailant. >> we can assume not everybody is the same. all people with certain mental health conditions, asperger's, autistic, personality disorder. >> maybe he was on drugs. >> maybe he was on d
explaining a tragedy like the one in connecticut to children can be hard. school week is looming tomorrow and there's a conversation you may want to have. when we come back, the doctors you know and trust every week are going to offer you tips on how to best do that. ♪ ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] everyone deserves the gift of all day pain relief. this season, discover aleve. all day pain relief with just two pills. >>> one of the things we've heard that's so amazing from the families...
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molly line, in newtown, connecticut. on such a crazy day and a few days, when money stops talking, you know what happened in this small town is leaving silence that even now is deafening. this holiday, share everything. share "not even close." share "you owe me..." share "just right." the share everything plan. shareable data across 10 devices with unlimited talk and text. hurry in for a droid razr m by motorola for $49.99. >>neil: trading on friday was very light and in this supposedly capitalist country, hearts were heavy and for a brief moment, today, it was silent. a moment silence speaks volumes when no one is speaking at all. when they are just watching. and thinking. and wondering. and in a place like wall street where money means everything, for a brief moment, it meant nothing. money powerless to bring back 20 lives, money useless to make so many devastated parents whole. money that could not buy one of them a happy christmas now. or even bring if a better new year. there are many things money cannot buy includi
molly line, in newtown, connecticut. on such a crazy day and a few days, when money stops talking, you know what happened in this small town is leaving silence that even now is deafening. this holiday, share everything. share "not even close." share "you owe me..." share "just right." the share everything plan. shareable data across 10 devices with unlimited talk and text. hurry in for a droid razr m by motorola for $49.99. >>neil: trading on friday was very...
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there might be a young person who looks to the person in connecticut as a young person. i want to say to person, that is it not the answer. that will not sold your problems. if you ever finding yourself looking to him with request and not disgust. open yourself up and talk to someone. you don't want to go down the road. he's not the solution or role model. may god have mercy on you. don't follow the fam example. >> i cannot thrank you enough for being here tonight. i know your schedule is imcrezibly back. tharching you, lucado >> we all feel a sense of grief and pain. and sometimes we feel so incredibly helpless . and yet we can pray and it can make a difference. >> if i didn't believe that, i would give up in a face of something as horribleeeee >> as we leave you tonight, we want you to see the names and ages of those whose lives were ended by the tragedy at sandy hook elementary. their ages frozen in death but hopefully not forgotten by their families, their friends and the rest of america. from new york, good night. ♪ ♪
there might be a young person who looks to the person in connecticut as a young person. i want to say to person, that is it not the answer. that will not sold your problems. if you ever finding yourself looking to him with request and not disgust. open yourself up and talk to someone. you don't want to go down the road. he's not the solution or role model. may god have mercy on you. don't follow the fam example. >> i cannot thrank you enough for being here tonight. i know your schedule is...
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latest on the school shootings in newtown, connecticut. >> we are back with a special live edition of huckabee. we'll show you grace mcdonald. gracey's family issued a statement. we are overwhelmed with the outletpowering and love and support for so many people. our grace was the love and light of our family. words cannot adequately express our sense of loss. darryl scott's daughter rachel was one of the 13 victims of the bine boin victims in april 20th, 1999. >> darryl, i appreciate you being here. it causes you to relive painful moments 13 years ago. i want to begin bying what that moment was like when you realized that rachel, your daughter was one of the victims in the columbine shooting? i think the first thing that happens, you experience such a shock and there is it a certain amount of disbelief. i kept expecting her to walk through the door and expecting to see her and it took a while for it to hit dead center that she was gone. that happens a lot with parents who don't expect to lose your child. you never expect it to happen. it was a nightmare. nyou know, the toughest thing
latest on the school shootings in newtown, connecticut. >> we are back with a special live edition of huckabee. we'll show you grace mcdonald. gracey's family issued a statement. we are overwhelmed with the outletpowering and love and support for so many people. our grace was the love and light of our family. words cannot adequately express our sense of loss. darryl scott's daughter rachel was one of the 13 victims of the bine boin victims in april 20th, 1999. >> darryl, i...
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newtown, connecticut now in the town of fairfield county, southwestern connecticut. 45 miles southwest of hartford. 60 miles outside of new york city. a decent sized town, population about 27,000. but the school district itself has about 5400 kids. it's a pretty large district. this school in particular, kindergarten through fourth grade as the wnyw helicopter moves closer to that town. alisyn: it's sandy hook elementary school. about that town it's a very, very pretty town. it has a lot of beautiful town squares, churches on corners with pretty old steeples. parts of it are historic. it shows that this sort of terror parents experience everywhere, sadly. this story happens everywhere and you can just imagine how parents are feeling as they are getting this news that something apparently has happened at this school today, and there were gunshots, and that someone is hurt, but beyond that it is hard to know if all the students are okay. we wish we could report that, but at this hour we don't have that information. bill: crime is very few to this town, very low. one violent criminal offe
newtown, connecticut now in the town of fairfield county, southwestern connecticut. 45 miles southwest of hartford. 60 miles outside of new york city. a decent sized town, population about 27,000. but the school district itself has about 5400 kids. it's a pretty large district. this school in particular, kindergarten through fourth grade as the wnyw helicopter moves closer to that town. alisyn: it's sandy hook elementary school. about that town it's a very, very pretty town. it has a lot of...
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there might be a young person who looks to the person in connecticut as a young person. i want to say to the young person, that is it not the answer. that will not sold your problems. if you ever finding yourself looking to him with request and not disgust. open yourself up and talk to someone. you don't want to go down the road. he's not the solution or role model. may god have mercy on you. don't follow the fam example. >> i cannot thrank you enough for being here tonight. i know your schedule is imcrezibly back. tharching you, lucado >> we all feel a sense of grief and pain. and sometimes we feel so incredibly helpless . and yet we can pray and it can make a difference. >> if i didn't believe that, i would give up in a face of something as horribleeeee >> as we leave you tonight, we want you to see the names and ages of those whose lives were ended by the tragedy at sandy hook elementary. their ages frozen in death but hopefully not forgotten by their families, their friends and the rest of america. from new york, good night. ♪
there might be a young person who looks to the person in connecticut as a young person. i want to say to the young person, that is it not the answer. that will not sold your problems. if you ever finding yourself looking to him with request and not disgust. open yourself up and talk to someone. you don't want to go down the road. he's not the solution or role model. may god have mercy on you. don't follow the fam example. >> i cannot thrank you enough for being here tonight. i know your...
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there might be a young person who looks to the person in connecticut as a young person. i want to say to the young person, that is it not the answer. that will not sold your problems. if you ever finding yourself looking to him with request and not disgust. open yourself up and talk to someone. you don't want to go down the road. he's not the solution or role model. may god have mercy on you. don't follow the fam example. >> i cannot thrank you enough for being here tonight. i know your schedule is imcrezibly back. tharching you, lucado >> we all feel a sense of grief and pain. and sometimes we feel so incredibly helpless . and yet we can pray and it can make a difference. >> if i didn't believe that, i would give up in a face of something as horrible as i will be back with closing thoughts . with a select terrain dial that adjusts the jeep grand cherokee's performance for specific weather and road conditions... ♪ ...even heavy snowstorms... won't keep you from getting to work. our apologies. ♪ is a thrilling, dual-flavored ride to mouth fun-town. but it's not like e
there might be a young person who looks to the person in connecticut as a young person. i want to say to the young person, that is it not the answer. that will not sold your problems. if you ever finding yourself looking to him with request and not disgust. open yourself up and talk to someone. you don't want to go down the road. he's not the solution or role model. may god have mercy on you. don't follow the fam example. >> i cannot thrank you enough for being here tonight. i know your...
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to connecticut. although ryan is not a suspect, are telling us they are going through his computer and records just to see if that can give them clues about anything and maybe a motive. >> thank you . police familiar us it will take dicelet gruesome crume - crime scene. children slaughtered inside of the elementary school. we spoke with paul vance. >> thank you very having us. >> lieutenant, we have seen so many going back to columbine and you never think it is going to happen in your own community. >> it is it horrific and tragic and the parents sent these children to be educate never expected to never see them again it is it a heartbreaking trag tee. >> and you think that right now. you haven't identified all of the bodies for the families have you? >> we have a process where we have to positively identify everyone and we want to do that as expeditiously as possible working on thisthat right now it is important for the families and why understand that. >> imagine you haven't got official world and
to connecticut. although ryan is not a suspect, are telling us they are going through his computer and records just to see if that can give them clues about anything and maybe a motive. >> thank you . police familiar us it will take dicelet gruesome crume - crime scene. children slaughtered inside of the elementary school. we spoke with paul vance. >> thank you very having us. >> lieutenant, we have seen so many going back to columbine and you never think it is going to happen...
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there is reports of a school shooting in newtown, connecticut. we know few detailsment state police responded to a report of a shooting in sandy hook elementary school . kindergarten through fourth grade. >> a dispatcher with a newtown voluntarily ambulance corp said one teacher was transported to a nearby hospital possible with a gun shot wound . >> it is difficult to see if one of the wat teems that was reponding and armored vehicles heading to the colask they race to newtown from all over connecticut. >> one gunman, maybe two and two respects that one gunman may be dead. as you can understand it is a fast-moving and fluid situation in the school. >> it is it important on a day like today to view this as i know the president as a father does and i as a father and others who are parents. certainly do, which is to feel enormous sympathy for families that are affected and to do everything we can. nsources are telling fox nuse that 26 people are dead at this point. 8 adults including the children and 18 children. they heard the gun shots and they a
there is reports of a school shooting in newtown, connecticut. we know few detailsment state police responded to a report of a shooting in sandy hook elementary school . kindergarten through fourth grade. >> a dispatcher with a newtown voluntarily ambulance corp said one teacher was transported to a nearby hospital possible with a gun shot wound . >> it is difficult to see if one of the wat teems that was reponding and armored vehicles heading to the colask they race to newtown from...
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connecticut is a pretty liberal state. i believe the democratic party controls all the branches of government in connecticut. they chose not to ban the things we are talking about. i guess. they could have. couldn't they? >> state laws are useless. can you order things online now. you have to look at -- i'm just saying let's have an honest debate and privacy laws, mental health. i do think the republican party shouldn't be in a position of saying you can't even discuss. this i think the speaker could easily ask control one house of congress, senator reid could this on the other side. have sirous hearings about the legal issues and the public policy issues. >> chris: you know, liz, i'm sure that some of our listeners listened to this talk about joe lieberman calling for a commission or bill kristol calling for hearings. and i don't mean this in a belittling way. they think we have heard this all before. that just means we will have some documents, we'll have some hearings and nothing will happen. and maybe nothing should ha
connecticut is a pretty liberal state. i believe the democratic party controls all the branches of government in connecticut. they chose not to ban the things we are talking about. i guess. they could have. couldn't they? >> state laws are useless. can you order things online now. you have to look at -- i'm just saying let's have an honest debate and privacy laws, mental health. i do think the republican party shouldn't be in a position of saying you can't even discuss. this i think the...
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i can only begin to imagine the pain that the parents in connecticut are feeling today. i want to assure them and people in this nation we're doing everything we can to investigate this horrendous crime and offer assistance any way we can and that also means we are telling people to connecticut to deal with the traumatic impact that this has had. >> reporter: house speaker john boehner issued a call for unity yesterday, saying in a statement, let us all cling together in god's grace, to pray for the families of the victims that they may find comfort and peace amid such suffering and let us give thanks, boehner added, to those who helped them get to safety. and no parents of the children murdered at sandy hook described the pain of such tragedy said house speaker nancy pelosi, nobody all americans share our prayers and our grief over these horrifying events and every person is thrust into the quandary with this event. we want to turn to language and distinctly make us human, but words fail us. >> jon: thank you very much, james rosen reporting from d.c. in a situation tha
i can only begin to imagine the pain that the parents in connecticut are feeling today. i want to assure them and people in this nation we're doing everything we can to investigate this horrendous crime and offer assistance any way we can and that also means we are telling people to connecticut to deal with the traumatic impact that this has had. >> reporter: house speaker john boehner issued a call for unity yesterday, saying in a statement, let us all cling together in god's grace, to...
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jonathan hunt is live in newtown, connecticut the scene. >>jonathan: hard to imagine and hard to put in words the terror inflicted upon sandy hook where we are, part of the greater newtown area. or upon the children of sandy hook elementary. it is perhaps described best by one of the children themselves who was led away from the school early today. listen. >> we were just in the middle of gym and we heard gunshots. the power went out. the gym teachers directed us to stay against the wall and everyone started panicking. then the police came in. they asked if he was in here. we had to climb into the closets and we heard a lot more gunshots and the ambulance came. >> the one thing about the children is that some of them don't understand exactly what happened here but parents obviously understood it all too well. you can only imagine the terror that they experienced as they heard about the shootings and started running toward the school. here is one of the parents. >> mayhem in the room with all the kids and the teachers trying to find your kid
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. >> as you know by now the gunman opened fire in newtown, connecticut. when it was all over 26 people were dead. most of children. youngest am have was just five yores old. adam hans lans then committed cusude. nthe names of those killed are expected to be released shortly . they comb the school in and out for clues . they have good evidence that they hope will answer questions. >> i am kewill wroiti am uma we have special edition of america's news head quarters that starts right now. >> we'll go to newtown connecticut. they are wrapping up a press conference. adam lanza was not let into the school voluntarily. instead he forced his way in. molly is standing by in the sandy hook elementary school . molly? >> thank you, uma. they haven't given out a lot of details. what they mean on lansa forcing his way in. no one opened the door for him. and he was not standing in the building when the doors were locking down. it was a situation where he lit ralgely pushed his way the building somehow . there was a question of whether he broke a window. there is reports
. >> as you know by now the gunman opened fire in newtown, connecticut. when it was all over 26 people were dead. most of children. youngest am have was just five yores old. adam hans lans then committed cusude. nthe names of those killed are expected to be released shortly . they comb the school in and out for clues . they have good evidence that they hope will answer questions. >> i am kewill wroiti am uma we have special edition of america's news head quarters that starts right...
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there are at are a lot of herosn connecticut today. i said on saturday night i thought there would be a time for public discussion and that discussion would inest bring occur as it does when a tragedy like this takes place. some people interpreted that to mean that i thought it was inappropriate for those discussions to take place. i do not think it sin appropriate for them to sake place. in fact, it is quite appropriate. i was making the point no more than 36 hours after the event my personal job as governor at that moment, was to speak to the people of connecticut about the fears they feel, the damage that has been done, and my job was to help and continue to help newtown and the entire state to recover. we know in our state that we have some of the toughest gun laws of any state in the nation but when the investigation is over and all of the information is in i will ask a few questions. is there a law, a policy or procedure we could have had on the book that might have prevented this vat joy? it turns out clearly the answer is yes a
there are at are a lot of herosn connecticut today. i said on saturday night i thought there would be a time for public discussion and that discussion would inest bring occur as it does when a tragedy like this takes place. some people interpreted that to mean that i thought it was inappropriate for those discussions to take place. i do not think it sin appropriate for them to sake place. in fact, it is quite appropriate. i was making the point no more than 36 hours after the event my personal...
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we certainly know that hatred and evil is often made manifest in connecticut. but the question, which is stronger? the light stronger than darkness? is love more powerful than evil, than hate? i believe it is. i believe when that baby is born in bethlehem, what happens is people take into himself all of human suffering, the suffering in connecticut, the suffering in all of human history, where every mother or father who has went for a child, every tear ever shed in public or private, will one day be obliterated by the power of that love. i agree with the rabbi, that the hope that we have is, it rests in our faith and the ability to reach beyond what we can see or feel at this moment. there is no sense, we can make no sense out of this because this is senseless. evil is senseless, it is unreasonable. it is antireason. what we have to do is reach for the love that comes to us in the memory of these children, the love of the nation that is poured out on that small town right now. >>neil: it is human nature, i guess, and rabbi i direct this to you, for us to want t
we certainly know that hatred and evil is often made manifest in connecticut. but the question, which is stronger? the light stronger than darkness? is love more powerful than evil, than hate? i believe it is. i believe when that baby is born in bethlehem, what happens is people take into himself all of human suffering, the suffering in connecticut, the suffering in all of human history, where every mother or father who has went for a child, every tear ever shed in public or private, will one...
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our live coverage from connecticut continues. that's next. >> greta: here's how today's unthinkable tragedy unfolded. >> breaking news to tell you right now. there are reportsave school shooting in newtown, connecticut. had this is at the sandy hook school. >> we know very few details. but this is what we can report. state police are responded to a report of a shooting at sandy hook elementary school, which we understand is kindergarten through fourth grade. >> here's what's being reported. a dispatcher from the newtown voluntary ambulance corp reported one teacher has been taken to a nearby hospital, possibly with a gunshot wound. >> just ahead of him, it is difficult to see at this point, is one of the s.w.a.t. teams, responding, one of the armored vehicles heading to that school, racing to newtown from all over the state of connecticut. >> we have had numerous reports that there was one gunman, maybe two. we have two reports that one gunman may be dead. but you can understand, this is a fast-moving, very fluid situation at the
our live coverage from connecticut continues. that's next. >> greta: here's how today's unthinkable tragedy unfolded. >> breaking news to tell you right now. there are reportsave school shooting in newtown, connecticut. had this is at the sandy hook school. >> we know very few details. but this is what we can report. state police are responded to a report of a shooting at sandy hook elementary school, which we understand is kindergarten through fourth grade. >> here's...
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>>neil: now the latest from newtown, connecticut. rick? rick: the governor of connecticut was here a short time ago and called this a tragedy of unspeakable terms that you can never be fully prepared for. remember, this happened over six hours ago. there is a lot of evidence still being processed. the crime scene is still very active. other scenes are now investigated, including the home of shooter's movie where an adult body was found and other residents in new jersey with conflicting reports of the status of the shooter's father and conflicting reports on the shooter himself. what we are told at this hour is that the shooter is 20-year-old adam lanza and his 24-year-old brother was taken into custody and questioned but that ryan at this point is not a suspect. we are told the shooter was adam, he had two weapons including an assault rifle and a 10 millimeter glock and he answered the school where the more was a teacher and began firing. police got 9-1-1 call. local police showed up and called in the state police. unlike columbine where t
>>neil: now the latest from newtown, connecticut. rick? rick: the governor of connecticut was here a short time ago and called this a tragedy of unspeakable terms that you can never be fully prepared for. remember, this happened over six hours ago. there is a lot of evidence still being processed. the crime scene is still very active. other scenes are now investigated, including the home of shooter's movie where an adult body was found and other residents in new jersey with conflicting...
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live in newtown, connecticut. e. fox report. 36 hours removed from a gunman unleashing a shooting massacre in the elementary school. population 600 students from kindergarten to fourth. it is a day that changed the housetown forever. machines -- members of the shooter family releasing a statement saying they felt heart felt sorrow. each of the 22 children who died was aged 6 or 7 and all thought to be in the first grade. 12 of them were girls and eight were boys, the gunman shot child multiple times. we are told that at least one child was shot 11 times inside of the classroom. this is a picture of the gunman identified as 20 year old adam lanza that is a picture from six years ago at the age of 14. he lived with his mother in the town of newtown 10 miles from the school. a school that he drove his own mother's car to waking up in the morn shooting her in the head. today we heard from the shooter's aunt. she said the mother home schooled him after a dispute with the public school system, but no one in the family expe
live in newtown, connecticut. e. fox report. 36 hours removed from a gunman unleashing a shooting massacre in the elementary school. population 600 students from kindergarten to fourth. it is a day that changed the housetown forever. machines -- members of the shooter family releasing a statement saying they felt heart felt sorrow. each of the 22 children who died was aged 6 or 7 and all thought to be in the first grade. 12 of them were girls and eight were boys, the gunman shot child multiple...
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from newtown, connecticut. now. >> bill: "the o'reilly factor" is on. tonight -- >> we all huddled and i kept hearing these booming noises. >> fox news confirmed that as many as 27 people are dead, including 20 children. >> bill: unspeakable evil in connecticut. >> the gym teachers directed to us take against the wall and everybody started to panic. >> bill: dozens of school children murdered. >> they had their entire lives ahead of them. birthdays, graduations, weddings, kids of their own. >> bill: tonight what happened? how it could happen and can america prevent this kind of atrocity? we will have a number of reports. >> he's tough. a lesser person would have pleaded guilty. >> bill: also will president obama and secretary of state clinton demand the release of marine lance corporal jon hammer being held in a mexican prison on bogus charges? we will continue our reporting on this disturbing story. caution. you are about to enter the no spin zone. "the factor" begins right now. >> bill: hi. i'm bill o'reilly.
from newtown, connecticut. now. >> bill: "the o'reilly factor" is on. tonight -- >> we all huddled and i kept hearing these booming noises. >> fox news confirmed that as many as 27 people are dead, including 20 children. >> bill: unspeakable evil in connecticut. >> the gym teachers directed to us take against the wall and everybody started to panic. >> bill: dozens of school children murdered. >> they had their entire lives ahead of them....
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. >> jon: a heart breaking tragedy unfolds in newtown, connecticut. 20 elementary school children and six adults gunned down in their school. the media providing wall to wall coverage and then the focus changes. >> it's so unbelievable and it only happens in america. >> jon: is this the time for liberals and their media lap dogs wto push the agenda against guns? time magazine names its man of the year and guess what? it's barack obama. are you surprised? on the panel this week, writer and fox news contributor, judy miller. richard grenle, who served as press spokesman for the last four u.n. ambassadors to the u.n. jim pinkerton conservative magazine and daily beast columnist kirsten powers. i'm jon scott. fox news watch is on right now. now. >> you were aware of the security risk there, we've read the cables. you were fully aware and either you send people there with security or you don't send them there. >> i looked at the people streaming through the front gate in benghazi, that wouldn't have taken that much to stop that attack if indeed they'd have been-- they would have responded
. >> jon: a heart breaking tragedy unfolds in newtown, connecticut. 20 elementary school children and six adults gunned down in their school. the media providing wall to wall coverage and then the focus changes. >> it's so unbelievable and it only happens in america. >> jon: is this the time for liberals and their media lap dogs wto push the agenda against guns? time magazine names its man of the year and guess what? it's barack obama. are you surprised? on the panel this...
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to connecticut. although ryan is not a suspect, are telling us they are going through his computer and records just to see if that can give them clues about anything and maybe a motive. >> thank you . police familiar us it will take dicelet gruesome crume - crime scene. children slaughtered inside of the elementary school. we spoke with paul vance. >> thank you very having us. >> lieutenant, we have seen so many going back to columbine and you never think it is going to happen in your own community. >> it is it horrific and tragic and the parents sent these children to be educate never expected to never see them again it is it a heartbreaking trag tee. >> and you think that right now. you haven't identified all of the bodies for the families have you? >> we have a process where we have to positively identify everyone and we want to do that as expeditiously as possible working on thisthat right now it is important for the families and why understand that. >> imagine you haven't got official world and
to connecticut. although ryan is not a suspect, are telling us they are going through his computer and records just to see if that can give them clues about anything and maybe a motive. >> thank you . police familiar us it will take dicelet gruesome crume - crime scene. children slaughtered inside of the elementary school. we spoke with paul vance. >> thank you very having us. >> lieutenant, we have seen so many going back to columbine and you never think it is going to happen...
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peter doocy is live in newtown, connecticut with the very latest. hello, peter. >> eric, i spoke to one of adam lanza's classmates who told me adam was shy and the type of kid you could say hi to in the hall and he would say hi back but that was all the talking he would do. federal investigators will come here today visit gun stores and shooting ranges, searching for a hint about what led to this mass murder that took the lives of 26 people inside an elementary school, including 30-year-old lauren rousseau who got the permanent substituted teaching job she strived for. 16 victims were born in 1996, four in 1995 and every detail about what happened on friday seems to be harder who hear than the last. >> there were in cute kid stuff. they're first graders wearing cute kid stuff, you know. it's the kind of stuff you would send your kids or your are grandkids out the door to first grade in. >> flowers and candles and vigils popped up all over newtown. neighbors want to know how this happened. the aunt says the reason so many guns were in adam lanza's ho
peter doocy is live in newtown, connecticut with the very latest. hello, peter. >> eric, i spoke to one of adam lanza's classmates who told me adam was shy and the type of kid you could say hi to in the hall and he would say hi back but that was all the talking he would do. federal investigators will come here today visit gun stores and shooting ranges, searching for a hint about what led to this mass murder that took the lives of 26 people inside an elementary school, including...
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he was doing some rewrites on air force one on the way to connecticut. he will make it personal and from the heart. >>bret: we have heard politicians talking about gun control on sunday shows. we have heard about a lost policy prescriptions here in washington. do you think the president will get into policy talk at all in this speech tonight? >>reporter: the science i have is he will steer clear of policy talk whether it is gun criminal or how we deal and treat people with mental illnesses in this country which is an important issue that has popped up. he will avoid that tonight. as you mentioned, the mayor bloomberg from new york city was on a sunday show today pushing the president hard saying he owes the american people, and republicans are saying second amendment is a cherished right. the bottom line from the white house aides is the president doesn't think this is the time or place, tonight, and he knows there will an great debate in the days ahead. he set high expectation on friday when he said he wants meaningful act and he will face pressure to f
he was doing some rewrites on air force one on the way to connecticut. he will make it personal and from the heart. >>bret: we have heard politicians talking about gun control on sunday shows. we have heard about a lost policy prescriptions here in washington. do you think the president will get into policy talk at all in this speech tonight? >>reporter: the science i have is he will steer clear of policy talk whether it is gun criminal or how we deal and treat people with mental...
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connecticut state police also saying there is a woman who was wounded in the shooting. saying that she is instrumental in the investigation at this point. who might else be able to help provide crucial information at this time? >> the woman that they are referring to is the vice principal that survived when the psychologist and principal lunged left side at the shooter. they have other things, what in particular what he said. this is an interviewhe children. that will be a long, painful process. so this adult sbiev is a potential key witness. >> arthel: at what point will some of the children have provided eyewitness accounts. will authorities to have sit them down and further question them as to what they saw, what they heard. >> it's an active investigation with many moving parts. there is lot of things that are unanswered and certain unmitigated facts. i would speculate they would begin that painful process of massaging out various eyewitness details from the children in the coming days. >> arthel: then there is computer that was found at the shooter's home. what mig
connecticut state police also saying there is a woman who was wounded in the shooting. saying that she is instrumental in the investigation at this point. who might else be able to help provide crucial information at this time? >> the woman that they are referring to is the vice principal that survived when the psychologist and principal lunged left side at the shooter. they have other things, what in particular what he said. this is an interviewhe children. that will be a long, painful...
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molly line with more from the scene, sandy hook school in newtown, connecticut. uma. >> new details are emerging about the shooter, 20-year-old adam lanza, but many specifics about his motive remain unclear. he lived with his mother nancy in a prosperous area of newtown, connecticut and confirmed that a woman was found dead in that home and it is believed to be his mother. the guns found at the scene were registered nancy lanza and ryan lanza initially identified, says adam was autistic. and neighbors are also remembering adam as quote, senator a smart, and on the honor roll. they've found no note from the terrific tragedy and adam wearing black fatigues forced his way in and began his bloody rampage. >> kelly: connecticut police released tapes of the calls that came in. >> and caller indicates she thinks there's someone shooting in a car >> you can just imagine what the police were encountering as they came upon that horrible tragedy that no one could imagine. during the morning's press conference at sandy hook elementary, police said the superintendent of schoo
molly line with more from the scene, sandy hook school in newtown, connecticut. uma. >> new details are emerging about the shooter, 20-year-old adam lanza, but many specifics about his motive remain unclear. he lived with his mother nancy in a prosperous area of newtown, connecticut and confirmed that a woman was found dead in that home and it is believed to be his mother. the guns found at the scene were registered nancy lanza and ryan lanza initially identified, says adam was autistic....
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gentle, strong, good night from newtown, connecticut. a town whose fallen children now belong to the ages. god bless them. we will see you again for a special edition of this program tomorrow night. thank you very much for listening and as we see these names, these young children, the victims of the atrocity on your screen pray for them and their families. good night, everybody. thank you.
gentle, strong, good night from newtown, connecticut. a town whose fallen children now belong to the ages. god bless them. we will see you again for a special edition of this program tomorrow night. thank you very much for listening and as we see these names, these young children, the victims of the atrocity on your screen pray for them and their families. good night, everybody. thank you.
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the governor of connecticut. he he revealed that baseed on most recent reconstruction, it appears that the gunman, 20-year-old adam lanza decided to stop killing teachers and students and take his own life when it became clear to him that authority who is were also armed, were closing in. listen to this. >> we surmise that it was during the second classroom episode that he heard responders coming and apparently, at that, decided to take his own life. >> reporter: authorities are also saying information from the single survivor who's recovering from gunshot wound this is morning will help them piece together exactly what happened and when and where during adam lanza's rampage. we are hearing a little bit of that ourselves now, from the father of a first grader who saw his teacher, 27-year-old victoria soto get shot. he has been telling his parenting more about his daring escape, every day. >> the children... acted on instinct and what they were taught, which was to run. and they d. they just ran... up to the main
the governor of connecticut. he he revealed that baseed on most recent reconstruction, it appears that the gunman, 20-year-old adam lanza decided to stop killing teachers and students and take his own life when it became clear to him that authority who is were also armed, were closing in. listen to this. >> we surmise that it was during the second classroom episode that he heard responders coming and apparently, at that, decided to take his own life. >> reporter: authorities are...
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sunrise in newtown, connecticut. from the peshpesh perish, and tears in people's eyes and my daughter and i let candles for the adults and lives lost in this town. our guest is the monsignor white. >> good morning. >> tell us about the pain in the town, one young children was to be an angel, at st. lima and another you had to break his sister died you had to break the news and tell us what the parishioners are feeling on this day? >> this community is an incredible community and people choose to live here it's all about families and being together and supporting each other. this has just broken the heart of the town to see the 20 incident children and adults senselessly taken from us. the spirit in this town is very, very heavy and the reality of this event is really starting to settle in. and having been with many of the families throughout the day and early this morning, you realize that life has changed forever. and you hope that out of all of this, this bad, some kind of goodwill come. and you know, pray god with
sunrise in newtown, connecticut. from the peshpesh perish, and tears in people's eyes and my daughter and i let candles for the adults and lives lost in this town. our guest is the monsignor white. >> good morning. >> tell us about the pain in the town, one young children was to be an angel, at st. lima and another you had to break his sister died you had to break the news and tell us what the parishioners are feeling on this day? >> this community is an incredible community...
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gentle, strong, good night from newtown, connecticut. a town whose fallen children now belong to the ages. god bless them. we will see you again for a special edition of this program tomorrow night. thank you very much for listening and as we see these names, these young children, the victims of the atrocity on your screen pray for them and their families. good night, everybody. thank you. .so as you can see, gs customer satisfaction is at 97%. mmmm tasty. and cut! very good. people are always asking me how we make these geico adverts. so we're taking you behind the scenes. this coffee cup, for example, is computer animated. it's not real. geico's customer satisfaction is quite real though. this computer-animated coffee tastes dreadful. geico. 15 minutes could save you 15 % or more on car insurance. someone get me a latte will ya, please? every human being is unique. and there is one store that recognizes it. the sleep nuer store. the only place in the world you'll find the extraordinarily comfortable sleep number experience. an exclusiv
gentle, strong, good night from newtown, connecticut. a town whose fallen children now belong to the ages. god bless them. we will see you again for a special edition of this program tomorrow night. thank you very much for listening and as we see these names, these young children, the victims of the atrocity on your screen pray for them and their families. good night, everybody. thank you. .so as you can see, gs customer satisfaction is at 97%. mmmm tasty. and cut! very good. people are always...
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the most important thing is this is new town connecticut. we drop our kindergartners 6-year-olds, 14-year-olds at school and we say good-bye we trust their going to come home. for 20 families this weekend they weren't able to pick them up. there will be plenty of time for reflection on what went wrong we make sure it doesn't happen again or to our best ability it doesn't happen. for now for me the most important part of this is the 20 young angels that we lost this weekend. >> president obama saying friday was the most difficult day of his presidency. last night he addressed the community because everybody had a chance to see that live. one of the things you picked out was the end if we could get the reaction to the president's speech last night. >> charlotte, daniel, olivia, josephine, anna, dylan, madeleine, katherincath kras r- chase, jesse, james, grace, emily, jack, noah, caroline, jessica, benjamin, avielle, allison. god has called them all home. >> i thought that was an amazing way to end the speech last night. >> i think it was exact
the most important thing is this is new town connecticut. we drop our kindergartners 6-year-olds, 14-year-olds at school and we say good-bye we trust their going to come home. for 20 families this weekend they weren't able to pick them up. there will be plenty of time for reflection on what went wrong we make sure it doesn't happen again or to our best ability it doesn't happen. for now for me the most important part of this is the 20 young angels that we lost this weekend. >> president...
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go long. >> [bell ringing] >> the scene in newtown was echoed across connecticut on friday. bells tolling 26 times for the 20 children and six adults killed at the sandy hook elementary school a week earlier. that horrific story getting major media attention. the coverage of the tragedy took a quick turn and many in the media to push their agenda against guns. it's so unbelievable and it only happens in america. and it happens again and again, and there was another shooting yesterday, three people killed, i think, in a hospital. we kill people in schools, we kill them in hospitals, we kill them in religious organizations, we kill when they're young, we kill them when they're old and we've just got to stop this. >> jon: well, you might applaud what mayor bloomberg says there. judy is nodding. jim, part of his statement was wrong. ask the people of scotland, norway or russia whether these kind of things happen only in america. >> right, look, there are four clusters of ways to think about these issues in terms of policy prescriptions, one is guns which we'll spend the rest of
go long. >> [bell ringing] >> the scene in newtown was echoed across connecticut on friday. bells tolling 26 times for the 20 children and six adults killed at the sandy hook elementary school a week earlier. that horrific story getting major media attention. the coverage of the tragedy took a quick turn and many in the media to push their agenda against guns. it's so unbelievable and it only happens in america. and it happens again and again, and there was another shooting...
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in the tragedy in newtown, connecticut. hard bitten officers, they're devastated by what happened when they found, when they walked in to an elementary school where at least one gunman walked in to that building and opened fire this morning. 26 innocent people are dead. 20 of them children. i'm john scott. thank you for joh joining us for the special coverage of the breaking story. this is what we know so far. it happened after 9:30 a.m. eastern time at sandy hook elementary school as classes got underway. federal law enforcement officers are telling fox news that adam lanza was found dead at the scene. his brother is in custody in hoboken, new jersey. their mother found dead at her house in connecticut. the f.b.i. confirms two pistols and m-4 rifle found at the scene. police have been updating through the day. and much of the information has been changing frankly. three people rushed to the hospital, teacher and two children are all expected to be okay. the teacher was shot in the leg and the foot and the other children su
in the tragedy in newtown, connecticut. hard bitten officers, they're devastated by what happened when they found, when they walked in to an elementary school where at least one gunman walked in to that building and opened fire this morning. 26 innocent people are dead. 20 of them children. i'm john scott. thank you for joh joining us for the special coverage of the breaking story. this is what we know so far. it happened after 9:30 a.m. eastern time at sandy hook elementary school as classes...
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we go back now tloif newtown, connecticut. fox news's own bill hammer is standing by to give us details. bill? >> yes. sean, good evening. the story is not even 12 hours old. the news broke at 9:30 this morning. we're on the air live at 10:15 eastern time. the news just started to come across the wire, and frankly at the time were told one person had been shot in the foot and being treated in a local hospital. there is very little news after that. that went on for a considerable amount of time. 45 ninz hour we started learning about this, now, when you go back and piece together this in your mind, the reason for that is obvious now. there were no other injuries. were just dead bodies inside of the school here in connecticut. the police were there, just absorbing this information going through from room to room. and trying to make sure that the killer the gunman, was accounted for and no one else is inside. we've been teld now many of the children were told to close their eyes and run. to get out of the building and make sure t
we go back now tloif newtown, connecticut. fox news's own bill hammer is standing by to give us details. bill? >> yes. sean, good evening. the story is not even 12 hours old. the news broke at 9:30 this morning. we're on the air live at 10:15 eastern time. the news just started to come across the wire, and frankly at the time were told one person had been shot in the foot and being treated in a local hospital. there is very little news after that. that went on for a considerable amount of...
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>> the president speaking last night in newtown, connecticut. he did not specifically say he would call for stricter controls on heavy weapons like the ar 15 rifle lanza used. but it's clear he is heading in that direction. but before congress takes any action, it should study the situations in eastern europe and russia where most guns are banned. hasn't cut down on gun violence, however. as those countries have a higher murder rate than the usa. also the gun murder rate here in america has almost been cut in half in the past 20 years. talking points wants a sane country with smart public safety measures. do we need semiautomatic rifles to be easily available? that's a worthy debate. and there are strong points on each side. clearly we the people, have to take a tough look at our violent society and find some effective solutions without violating constitutional rights. a very difficult situation, but we have to try. that's a memo. now for the top story, reaction. joinings from phoenix, alan gottlieb, founder of the second amendment foundation, n
>> the president speaking last night in newtown, connecticut. he did not specifically say he would call for stricter controls on heavy weapons like the ar 15 rifle lanza used. but it's clear he is heading in that direction. but before congress takes any action, it should study the situations in eastern europe and russia where most guns are banned. hasn't cut down on gun violence, however. as those countries have a higher murder rate than the usa. also the gun murder rate here in america...
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we'll go back to connecticut shortly. but first in "the factor" follow-up tonight, the talking points memo. mexico insulting every single american citizen. 27-year-old jon hammer, former marine lance corporal from florida, remains remains in a mn prison charged with gun possession. the charge is totally bogus. last summer he registered an antique shotgun, handed down to him from his great grandfather with american customs officials in brownsville, texas. he was then told by the american agents to take the paperwork across the border to mexican officials and he would be fine to travel on to costa rica for a hunting trip. when he did check in with the mexicans in matamoros, he was promptly arrested and charged with carrying a deadly weapon. that was last august. despite many attempts by the u.s. government to get him released, mexico will not do it. so he sits in a filthy prison ten days before christmas. that's simply unacceptable. everybody knows corporal hammer did nothing wrong. so why doesn't mexico just release him in
we'll go back to connecticut shortly. but first in "the factor" follow-up tonight, the talking points memo. mexico insulting every single american citizen. 27-year-old jon hammer, former marine lance corporal from florida, remains remains in a mn prison charged with gun possession. the charge is totally bogus. last summer he registered an antique shotgun, handed down to him from his great grandfather with american customs officials in brownsville, texas. he was then told by the...
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. ♪ ♪ >> president obama cites the connecticut shooting as a reason for republicans to compromise on the fiscal cliff. in a long defense of the white house offer. john boehner explained the plan "b" in less than one minute. this is "special report." ♪ ♪ >> bret: good evening. i'm bret baier. the battle how to avoid going over the fiscal cliff, ramped up as both sides were long on threat and short on movement. if negotiations go up in smoke, as you might imagine, both president obama and speaker boehner insist it's the other guy's fault. as he announced that vice president biden will spearhead the response to the mass shooting in connecticut, president obama hit with series of questions about fiscal cliff. >> if this has done anything, give us perspective. >> twice, he used the gun tragedy, plus sandy to sell the budget plan. >> when you think of what we have gone through over the last couple of months, devastating hurricane. now one of the worst tragedies in our memory. the country deserves folks to be willing to compromise on behalf of the greater good. >> in private, minutes be
. ♪ ♪ >> president obama cites the connecticut shooting as a reason for republicans to compromise on the fiscal cliff. in a long defense of the white house offer. john boehner explained the plan "b" in less than one minute. this is "special report." ♪ ♪ >> bret: good evening. i'm bret baier. the battle how to avoid going over the fiscal cliff, ramped up as both sides were long on threat and short on movement. if negotiations go up in smoke, as you might...